What’s the difference between taking time off to take care of your kids versus taking that time to travel the world? Tally and her producer discuss it. Also, Patti Smith knows about mothering.

The book Justice, Gender, and the Family is here.

Patti Smith’s complete interview is here.

Musical thanks to Podington Bear, ending satellites, and Jahzzar of the Free Music Archive.

Thanks to Maria Schamis Turner, Associate Producer for this episode.

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